2002.12.02 10:20
Re: game talk
Is it too much to ask that "DuChamp" never appear here again, and that the artist Marcel Duchamp's name is represented here correctly from now on?
Check out Duchamp's own signature...
2002.12.03 13:23
Re: game talk
mmutt:
You speak of an intimacy with Duchamp's work, so when was the last time you actually were in the same room with lots of it? I was very "intimate" two Sunday's ago, etc., etc. Check out the Dossier Duchamp I've so far compiled, beginning at xxx.htm and follows. Also check the contributions I've made to the Duchamp online bulletin board at www.marcelduchamp.net /wwwboard/wwwboard.htm . My work vis-a-vis Duchamp speaks for itself.
I honestly don't see what you are all in a huff about. You could have simply explained your affectation regarding Duchamp's name, and leave it at that. Your childish name calling, ie, calling me stupid, etc., is completly unnecessary, if not also a demonstration of a lack in your understanding.
We are all mirrors that have to see ourselves regardless.
2002.12.06 11:23
Re: game talk
A few days ago mmuttt asked me, "What's the one truly unique thing about the Large Glass?" My answer is, "the cracks in it."
2002.12.06 21:52
Re: altes museum
There is a review of Henderson's "Duchamp In Context" in the January 2000 Art In America by Rhonda Roland Shearer. Shearer is a Duchamp scholar and the widow of Stephen Jay Gould, and (I guess) the director of the Art Science Research Laboratory (see "contact us" at www.toutfait. com).
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2002.12.06 22:03
Re: game talk
The Large Glass cracked while in transit to Dreier's home in Connecticut.
2002.12.11 13:30
think you'll like this
Late yesterday afternoon I went the Phila. Museum of Art, specifically to photograph the Constantine tapestries in the Great Hall--for Christmas the PMA lights up the columns of the Great Hall, thus adding illumination to the tapestries. Since I got to the museum at 4:30 and it closes at 5:00 I only took pictures of the Marriage of Constantine and Fausta tapestry (for now). I then had about 20 minutes to take some more (random) pictures within other parts of the museum. I went to a gallery that last time I was there was under installation--alas it still is. This put me in a fortuitous direction because I then started to go through some galleries I really haven't been paying much attention to over the last few years. I made a "discovery" which then reminded me of other art I should be taking pictures of--this is the part I'm sure you will like. After the museum closed I went to the front courtyard and took pictures of the Duchamp gallery from outside, etc.
2002.12.11 21:39
Re: think you'll like this
The PMA has for almost two years now dedicated an entire gallery/room to the works of Jasper Johns, and Johns plays the biggest role in this, as virtually all the pieces in the gallery are works that Johns has kept for himself. Johns is (I'm sure) making sure his 'treasured' works are very close to Duchamp.
2002.12.14 11:58
Re: think you'll like this
I've figured out what relevance The Marriage of Constantine and Fausta has in the 'sequence'--that tapestry portrays all the "closely related paradigm shifting architects" of the pagan to Christian inversion of the Roman Empire. Thus, with the theme of paradigm shifting architects, Franklin then indeed fits the niche, as does Duchamp. Oldenberg and Johns, like Carroll and Lauf, are among the very dedicated pawns of this master chess game.
ps
I did some double checking, and the Widener Collection has four Rembrandts, indeed the one Vermeer, and I forgot about the Raphael!--which was on a Christmas stamp not all that long ago. I feel I have to now somehow include Lynnewood Hall and its story into Playing The Pre-Shrine Curator.
2002.12.16 12:32
Franklin painting
Portrait of Benjamin Franklin
1762
Oil on canvas
Mason Chamberlin
English
Died 1787
as depicted in Stephen Lauf, Museum Trip 2002.12.10
I went back to the museum yesterday and noticed that the lightening/bell invention that Franklin is looking at is indeed depicted in the painting--the left side of the painting is so dark that I didn't notice the two bells, etc. I took more pics of this aspect of the painting.
Like Helena, Constantine and Eutropia, Franklin and Duchamp are "paradigm shifting architects." The Franklin painting is especially poignant because it is a virtual photograph of Franklin looking at what is one of the first every "works" to incorporate captured electricity in the process of the work. The paradigm shift manifest by Franklin and his work is nicely illustrated by the juxtaposition of Franklin and his invention with today's ubiquitous "three-way plug." Duchamp's paradigm shift deals with a new approach to dexterity as well as art that is non-retinal.
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2002.12.16 16:11
for your viewing pleasure
Museum Trip 2002.12.15 is now online beginning at
www.museumpeace.com/03/0266.htm.
Note I continued to experiment with collaged running pictures to illustrate a particular room. The third page begins with a series of images depicting Duchamp's The King and Queen Surrounded by Swift Nudes. A new painting has been added to the Johns gallery, while one was also subtracted. And on the seventh page is Franklin and his invention (although still a bit too dark).
2003.01.13 09:01
Re: Art Capital?
Dossier Duchamp
www.museumpeace.com/03/0204.htm
and follows.
2003.01.21 12:05
Re: "REEKING GALERISM"
Perhaps the biggest irony is that Duchamp very overtly played the reenactor, yet virtually no one, and perhaps even Duchamp himself, realized just how much of Duchamp's art is all reenactment.
Hamilton is certainly the occasional reenactor of Duchamp, but does he even realize that is exactly what he is doing above all else?
Check out Readymade in Japan with Laser Print on Transparancy, a completely admitted reenactment of something that is actually not Duchamp.
Note: the limit of reenactment is that it can never be exactly that which it reenacts.
2003.01.22 13:14
Re: Favorite Artist?
Furthermore, while everyone thought Duchamp had given up art for chess playing, he was actually being an "underground artist" (Duchamp's own term). And even further, during the early 1950s, Duchamp was arranging the Arensberg collection at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, a collection that includes the largest collection of Duchamp works anywhere. Thus Duchamp literally arranged the bulk of his own work within a major museum, including the covert Étant donnés.
Duchamp is both literally and figuratively a very good aperture through which to view 20th century art.
Arranging one's own art work within a museum, what a virtually interesting idea. Perhaps even worth reenacting.
2003.01.22 15:10
Re: Favorite Artist?
Be sure to read, if you haven't already done so, the text Duchamp prepared and read for the panel discussion "Where do we go from Here? at Philadelphia, 20 March 1961. This text is within the "Ephemerides..." of Hulten et al, Marcel Duchamp: Work and Life, 1993. It is at the end of this speech/text that Duchamp states, "The great artist of tomorrow will go underground."
Given that we now know that Duchamp was secretly working on Étant donnés at that time, it seems only natural to assume that Duchamp was indeed clandestinely referring to himself. Not only was Duchamp good at reenacting, he got pretty good at preenacting as well.
Duchamp, an underground artist predicting the future greatness of himself. How artistic can you get[?]!
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2003.01.23 11:19
Re: Favorite Artist?
I'll be with you when you personally demonstrate that Duchamp is the easiest artist to write about. Hurry, I'm holding my breath (of Paris air).
Piranesi is my favorite artist. Exhalation as turd island, and then some.
You know, it might just be that Piranesi actually met my 'dada' the night of 24 September 1997—xxx.htm
2003.01.23 14:09
Re: Favorite Artist?
won't grade you on the hard parts
The Duchamp center in NYC is (presently) not MoMA, rather http://www.toutfait.com/ and related sites (unfortunately experienceing much web transmission difficulty lately), of which the real site in Lower Manhattan (home of Rhonda R. Shearer, Duchamp scholar and Stephen Jay Gould's widow) contains the largest private collection of Duchamp works anywhere.
I've been invited there, but haven't gotten the change to fulfill the invitation yet. Maybe soon, however. Probably the next time I stay over-night in the East Village, apparently on the floor below Christopher Wool's abode(?) or is it studio(?) or does he rent it out(?). [I did like what I saw of Wool online at some German gallery web site last November, and that was even before I found out I had already spent a night beneath him.]
2003.01.23 21:27
Re: Favorite Artist?
What I say here is usually a response, and providing a link to some of my work online is sometimes just the response I want to make, thus I'm not doing all this necessarily for feedback as much as for receiving a further responce maybe. Feel free to deliver your prepped choice words, however. I have to wonder though, will you be signing with your real name? That might just make your words really choice.
I will from now on at talkback write virtually nothing about Duchamp—just for you. I think that's the easiest.
2003.01.23
ideas
"rare not duchamp plurals" - popular underwear; good for ebay.
2003.01.31 11:58
Re: Favorite Artist?
DuChance, the constipation ref. was not to you directly. I was just fulfilling a chance opportunity to reply with intimating potential appropriateness to the overall 'discussion' of shit.
I do have to say, however, that what you just wrote does somewhat resemble diarrhea, the common kind of jealous diarrhea, even.
As to my connection with Duchamp, right now I don't give a shit.
2003.01.31
three recent stoppages
It has not escaped my attention that every time this Duchamp online bulletin board has recently failed to work properly, the resultant first notice is "positioning ÉTANT DONNÉS."
What exactly were the chances of that, I wonder.
"Oh Great One! Are you sending us a sign?"
2003.02.03
ideas
Duchamp in Philadelphia
2003.02.13 10:25
Re: Larry Poons
I wish museums mixed things up more. For example, I'd like to see Poons in a French period room, or Duchamp in a Ladies Room. Brancusi next to armor, why not? Museum as future-shock, sort of. Pick your destiny.
Hold me! Thrill me! Kiss me! You're my pride and joy, etc. Now rearrange me.
2003.03.11
ideas
Rubbing My Duchampiana Oeuvre
2003.03.13 13:53
reenactment a day keeps future away
I forget where I put my book on mnemonics!
What does the rough edge of a tongue have to with Uranus in Pisces anyway? it was "the fruits of Uranus in Pisces."
Were your parents really married on the solstice?
I accidently took some liquid haldol and cogentin mixed in juice once. nothing happened. [Or so he thought.]
Tangled web goes this way and alzheimer goes that way
I just won $8000 in the lottery. What should I buy now?
No doubt the artist suffered from rubbing his Duchampiana oeuvre way too much.
2003.03.19 12:20
finally filling in the blanks
All I got is this lousy manifest limitation.
It had something to do with memory, but I forgot what that was.
20 March 2003 is the first official Calendrical Coincidence Day.
[20 March 1778 Benjamin Franklin and Louis XVI meet at Versailles for the first time. Wonder what was on the menu then? A decisive diplomatic moment in the (USA) war of independence.]
[Marcel Duchamp said someting about "Where do we go from here" in Philadelphia 20 March 1961.]
[etc.]
I find Uranus in Pisces inspiring.
2003.03.24 11:22
cracks in a niche with restricted entrance
Étant Donnés' back door shares a niche with two Mondrians at the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
Composition with Blue (1926) hangs on the wall next to Étant Donnés' back door,
and Composition with White and Red (1936) hangs on the wall across from Étant Donnés' back door,
and it takes "2 KEY" to open Étant Donnés' back door.
2003.03.26 16:28
countdown to 24 March 2003
Yes! Yes! Yes! How dare anyone think MB is not the ultimate, let alone beyond it all!
You want cracks? I'll show you cracks:
www.marcelduchamp.net/wwwboard/messages/418.html
[Witch work is that now I wonder.]
Borofsky counted everything. I better start counting too. Let's see, that's one thumb up my ass, and several fists up yours. Oh! I'm suddenly so overwhelmed!
"I'll never be able to count at all."
2003.03.31 11:29
finding fraud, damning the mediocre
"I'm for Duchamp." I find him a pretty good job, a man who was frustrated by the utter fraud of art in general, and decided to try to damn the mediocre. He did paintings too, alas.
2003.03.31 12:35
Re: stuff that really is life changing
At the Yale Center for British Art in the large window of the top floor gallery facing closest to the New Haven Green there, in the general lower right corner of the large window, are the scant remains of what looks to be a mosquito embedded in the glass. I call it Teeny.
Definitely among of the stuff that changed my life.
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