THINKING OF Andy Warhol, Shadows, 1978-79. Dia:Beacon, 2003. I havent read one critic compare the Shadows to Franz Kline HELLO
--Kiss My Abstract, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.20 19:40).



are radical repetition and repetitious radicalism the same thing [in art]?

given that radical (in this context) means marked by a considerable departure from the usual of traditional and tending or disposed to make extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions, hasn't radicalism and/or being radical become a contemporary art staple, indeed (a)commonplace?

I saw SHADOWS in 1995 at the Andy Warhol Museum in Pittsburgh. Is Franz Klein ever that colorful or exactly repetitious or expansive?
--stephenlauf, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.21 08:16).



Franz Kline made some very colorful paintings [late 50s?] and like Warhol they weren't very good but to Warhols credit ....like all good designers he knew if the product or image is lacking just make lots of them and everything will look better my first encounter with this technique was some of Herbert Bayers photo designs for magazines in the1940s
--Kiss My Abstract, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.22 15:23).



Kline Shadow Test

a whole bakery of cakes and eating all of them?
--stephenlauf, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.21 08:16).



Lets just say theres a superficial "LOOK" but your right about the dynamics of the paintings being quite different Kline would never rely on repetition of the image to make a painting work
--Kiss My Abstract, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.23 19:39).



(I think) Kiss My Abstract is right about Warhol's Shadows bearing a relationship to Franz Kline's work, moreover, a relationship that should have been noted since Shadows came into being. Shadows of what I wonder, of Kline?

Warhol I know fairly well, however, Kline is now a whole new interest, (like Held is a new interest,) and I thank KMA for that.

As to Kline Shadow Test, let's just say I enjoy the combination of Kline and Warhol's sort of art via genetic engineering. [Remember pure cloning is nothing less than extreme reenactment. Imagine that, a future that is precisely something that actually once was. I quess it is true that reenactment likewise engenders an inversion.]
--stephenlauf, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.24 10:50).



"Strikingly filmic in their repetitive sequencing, the Shadows' serial orchestration makes Warhol seem a kind of painterly Philip Glass, while also forging a link to Abstract Expressionism--the slashing black shadows evoke Franz Kline"--Nancy Princenthal, "Dia:Beacon, The Imperturbables" in Art in America (July 2003), p. 64.

Is it just coincidence that a week ago here at Talkback Kiss My Abstract wrote: THINKING OF Andy Warhol, Shadows, 1978-79. Dia:Beacon, 2003. I havent read one critic compare the Shadows to Franz Kline HELLO?

I enjoyed the article Nancy.
--stephenlauf, Götterdämmerung? (2003.06.26 12:36).